by trella187673500 (8)

So, I was the lucky bastard that was quick enough to buy the 54 cm Pinarello yesterday. When I went down to backcountry.com to pick it up, it wasn't there. They looked for it, but it was not anywhere to be found. I was told that it must've been an inventory mix-up. *Sigh* Now my full-Ultegra dreams will remain just that. Seriously bummed out about it.

by hijo (491)

Gladys smelled the dog.
The dog smelled Gladys.
Neither one said anything.

by ckasey2255146 (8)

Holy crap! Someone bought that? Please kill Oakley for me....

How and why they pull this crap off amazes me.

Love,

C.K.

by hijo (491)

washer?

by Cataboo (318)

spin jersey is 94.5% wool and 5.5% lycra. Hardly enough contaminating lycra to cause smell problems.

It just smells like wet wool, it's not a biggie. Most of my merino smells like that when I take it out of the washer

by lanfarm (1)

Holy crap, the dakine gloves were 13 bucks but i live in Canada and shipping was 42 bucks. Thats more than the item at full price. Isnt there a cheaper shipping option?

by hijo (491)

Nicole:
The only explanation I can identify that may contribute to the differences in odor resistance you have experienced is that it appears that some of the Ibex cycling apparel isn't 100% Merino Wool. The Woman's Spin Jersey which has appeared on CL, for example, is a "Merino/Lycra blend".

"Odor-causing bacteria cling to positively charged smooth fibers like synthetics. Neutrally charged merino with its microscopic scales does not attract or hold bacteria."
here:
http://www.rootedtonature.com/2008/05/merino-wool-benefits-of-nature.html

There's a nice concise but detailed explanation of the "aspects of the physical and chemical structure of Australian Merino that make it naturally more resistant to odors than other textiles, especially synthetics."
here:
"Merino Wool: Comfort, Odor Control, and Thermal Regulation"
http://www.firstlitewool.com/First_Lite_brochure.pdf

There are definitely indications that chemical processes, treatments, and finishes may affect the natural odor-fighting properties of wool. It appears ddifficult to ascertain which processes, treatments, finishes are employed by which manufacturers.

Ibex says:
"The Zque program has been developed to satisfy our expectations of the integrity of Ibex's Merino fabrics. This includes assurance that our production systems meet suitable standards for the stewardship of livestock, management of the environment and socially responsible practices, and that the resulting products are of the highest quality.

Specifically, Zque encourages that our fiber production is managed through systems that track enhanced animal welfare, environmental, social and economic values, and provides that extra bit of confidence and transparency of the quality and integrity of Ibex's New Zealand Merino fiber."

You can go to Zque, here:
http://www.zque.co.nz/index.php

There's a wealth of general info here:
http://organicclothing.blogs.com/my_weblog/

including this:
"As with cotton, the health dangers to the environment and the consumer are only compounded with the conventional production of fabrics and garments from conventionally grown wool. The conventional wool garment manufacturing process typically employs harsh scouring agents and bleaches to clean and whiten the wool, formaldehyde, polyester, foams, dioxins, conditioners, moth-proofing, harsh chemical dyes, and other, often toxic, additives to finish the fabric and garments. Chemical dyes frequently include toxic heavy metals such as chrome, copper and zinc, and sometimes contain known or suspected carcinogens."

here:
"Wool- Facts Behind The Fiber":
http://organicclothing.blogs.com/my_weblog/2005/11/wool_facts_behi.html

This:
"In the high performance outdoor activities niche, several apparel manufacturers have applied new processing technologies to improve the outdoor performance of wool, a fiber naturally high in outdoor warmth performance. Using the finest New Zealand merino wool and new manufacturing processes, SmartWool, a New England outdoor clothing company, has created outdoor clothing with exceptional warm and lightness that doesn’t itch, shrink or smell like a goat when wet."

here:
"Merino Wool- Nature's High Performance Fabric":
http://organicclothing.blogs.com/my_weblog/2006/11/merino_wool_nat.html

This:
"Formaldehyde is a particularly nasty and difficult chemical that is almost impossible to remove completely from clothing although you can reduce the magnitude of its effects."
and this:
"Formaldehyde is also often used in permapress and wrinkle-free textile finishes. The formaldehyde smell can be lessened but the formaldehyde chemical can not be removed completely from clothing regardless of time and numbers of washing. The best thing to do is not buy clothing containing formaldehyde or other processing and finishing chemicals commonly used in conventional chemical-laced clothing.
Many of the easy-care clothing finishes – such as permapress, stain resistant, anti-static, anti-mildew, anti-bacterial, anti-cling, anti-shrink, flame retardant – contain formaldehyde or other harsh and toxic chemicals that have been linked with a litany of diseases and health problems."

here:
"Removing Odors & Smells From Clothing":
http://organicclothing.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/02/removing_odors_.html

There's this:
"Fabrics are treated with urea-formaldehyde resins to give them all sorts of easy care properties such as:

Permanent press / durable press
Anti-cling, anti-static, anti-wrinkle, and anti-shrink (especially shrink proof wool)
Waterproofing and stain resistance (especially for suede and chamois)
Perspiration proof
Moth proof
Mildew resistant
Color-fast
But easy care can come at a tough price."

here:
"Wake-Up And Smell The Formaldehyde":
http://organicclothing.blogs.com/my_weblog/2006/04/wakeup_and_smel.html

Nicole?

Oh well. Ibexwear.com is currently offering Free Ground Shipping on all Orders thru 6/30.

by ed (9)

might be easier if you just email me at edrice over on gmail

by ed (9)

hey i just pulled the order slip from the box and they only billed me for 95.20$ so thats the price.

by ed (9)

they were 95.99 here is a link to them
http://gearattack.com/items/10987

i have one back and one front, i can ship them usps priority for 8$ or by other means if you like (ups fed ex whatever)

or if you live in boston or syracuse you can pick them up.

by mr. T (215)

merino. different ranches maybe...( i know i own one sheep for sure!), but how it's worked...mmmm, maybe some process. heck, i love ibex, icebreaker- smartwool is out for pure wool attributes. anyway, all good stuff as far as my experience. maybe a hundred miles into the garments and the "difference" disappears.
let's not forget the swobo stuff thru here is great, awesome cuts and stitching. i have never payed full price for any full merino brand; gotta be discount for the common person ( and money saved for bike parts!)

by aris.lafor2268154 (1)

Hi Ed, i might be intersted what were they selling for?

by ed (9)

if anyone missed this deal and wants to buy my set let me know. I bought some last time and am not going to use them. Just selling them for cost

by necro (43)

no way, saint brakes? Never seen those here before!

where is the (chain) love?

by waitwhat (3)

the graphic designer of these shorts should be fired!!!

by milehigh80906 (68)

The others all sold out. The Galileo is the only one that BC Outlet has left.

by necro (43)

it was the gallileo, otherwise my credit card would have been decimated.

by Oakleyhater (5)

BARF!!!

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by aschwarz (27)

Was that Pinarello the f3:13 or the galileo? just curious.