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Bottomless CL Day!
Sick deals back to back all day long.

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by hijo (491)

I keep thinking about those magnets- like magnets on opposite sides of a fish tank, moving in unison but never touching- resistance without heat.

by hijo (491)

Don't know what happened with the italic font, there. Shoulda just been 'you' and 'wink' in italics!

by hijo (491)

One tough cookie- yessir. That you are indeed. You are one shrewd customer, aren't you. Cut right to the quick. Okay, Kat. I'm going to eat a nice big slice of humble pie right now- but only because it's you I'm talking to here. I bought an '07 Kestrel Evoke SL. A closeout. I paid $1511 shipped. The SL version was a pricier version- 800k modulus CF as opposed to the 700k modulus CF Evoke. The SL was a lighter, more full-on race bike, but only marginally so. Kestrel dropped the SL when they reorganized their line subsequent to the merger. The Evoke is plenty race-oriented enough, the SL version was redundant, it was really just there for bragging rights, so they could have a sub-kilo frame in the line. Mine is Ultegra/ FSA, and I upgraded to a Mavic Kysrium ES wheelset. Interesting thing about mine is the '07 "Firestorm" paint. Google search it, I dare you. Talk about 'bragging rights', how about 'gagging rights'! Have to say though, its much better in person (wink ;), and it's grown on me. I would've taken (the more subdued) red or naked carbon, though. The '08 paint is sweet!

by Cataboo (318)

if you read this thread, it's got what clueless (sac forum & maybe on here) told me about bikesdirect.com

http://forums.goingprepared.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=672&hilit=bikesdirect.com

by hijo (491)

I couldn't vouch for that retailer's rep. I've seen some debate about that on various forums. I don't know how on earth bikesdirect can say "compare at $4000" or "compare at $4500" !?!
Seems a little out of line to me- let's be realistic.

by Cataboo (318)

And what bike do you ride, Hijo?

by Cataboo (318)

True, but I got my current bike new for 75% off...

Therefore, I can't do worse than that on my next bike.

by hijo (491)

The reason that deal's available is because Kestrel-USA was recently acquired in 2007 by Fuji Corp. Japan, one of the largest and most powerful bicycle manufacturers in the world. Kestrel maintains brand identity and autonomy. Full Lifetime Warranty, and excellent reputation for honoring same. They've just slimmed down their lineup a bit, and some leftover stuff has to go. This retailer's built these up with their own inventory on hand to offer these savings, but you'd be getting Full Carbon w/ Ultegra, and maybe want to keep an eye out for a wheelset. Kestrel has been an industry-leading innovator in the area of CF frame design for over 20 years. They were the Original CF frame. These are definitely not 'knock-off' CF frames. An awful lot of CF frames are sourced. The manufacturer just slaps their decals on the same frame their competitors are slapping their decals on. They're all made in the same factories in Asia. Kestrels are not that, they have their own proprietary R&D, engineering and manufacturing processes. Check Kestrel's rep. These frames are identical in all respects to the current ones. BTW, I think I'd lean toward the Evoke @ $1799.

by hijo (491)

Right, but well... I mean 75% off is kinda unlikely in this particular case (NEW complete bike/ frame ) isn't it? I'm not trying to push a new bike on you, by any means. I think you're perfect just the way you are, but those deals are comparable to CL deals on bikes/ frames.

by Cataboo (318)

daroy, while I'm sure that's a great offer - it looks like I can buy one of those new from bikesdirect for $2k and I'll get free shipping and know that the bike's never been in a crash.

by Cataboo (318)

Hey Hijo - thanks for the links... They're not quite 75% off!

by daroy (33)

$1700

by hijo (491)

Ka-at...Ka-at?

Now where'd she go? Gulp. She's definitely stepping out on us.

by hijo (491)

Here you go, Kat:

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/kestrel/rt700_blk.htm

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/kestrel/evoke.htm

by Cataboo (318)

You know the beauty of this Oakley jersey... is you could bike to the disco in it and not have to change

by hijo (491)

You know another thing is the mark-up is much greater on the ancillary stuff. Retailer's enjoy a much bigger profit margin on exactly the miscellany that is so prevalent here, at CL. They can much more afford deep discounts on this stuff. Bikes and components -Hardgoods in general-
not so much. They just have less wiggle room with that stuff, before they're taking a loss. Eventually the cyclical nature of the business will force their hand. When the retailer's forced to CUT their losses, that's when the magic happens.

by Cataboo (318)

Hijo,

Yeah, I lucked out and got my current bike at 75% off. Shimano 105 & carbon fork & seatstays, good wheels etc. Good enough for what I do... I'd like to upgrade, but I'm holding out till I find a 44-48 cm bike at 75% off in titanium or carbon with at least ultegra.

by hijo (491)

Yes, I agree- they should. :)
Complete bike's definitely a good way to go at that point, like you said. Problem is the lack thereof @ BC, unless I'm missing something. You see closeout deals with a real primo frame built up with Ultegra, because most people who spent $4000 were looking for Dura Ace. Or just built up with nice miscellaneous parts. Maybe nice Ultegra, but cheap wheels. Much better to score the big savings and then look for a good deal on a wheelset, or whatever. Best to go with the flow, be patient- it'll turn up eventually. Plus a 48! That's gotta increase your odds! I know people complain about Women getting better deals, but seriously- I'm OFTEN jealous enough to muse, "why wasn't I born a member of The Fairer Sex? I'd do almost anything for that deal!"

I'm a little surprised by some of the complaints you hear around here, only because I don't know where these people are shopping, but I don't see a lot of quality parts discounted to >40% anywhere else, either.

by Cataboo (318)

Yeah, it's a triple as well. I wouldn't mind going to a double with it...

But at that point, why not just get an all carbon frame with the double & ultegra already instead of modifying my current bike?


They should put on a 48 cm bike all carbon & ultegra just for me.

by hijo (491)

I bet they'll throw complete gruppos on here eventually, probably winter, but a gruppo at >50%'d be a real nice score.

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