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Thursday, March 05 2009, 06:34 PM

I can't even remember how many times these have been up. The Loeka stuff seems to appear alot these days, and it stays there forever. Does anyone actually buy it?

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One more thing

Monday, November 17 2008, 11:05 PM

I made the switch from my 4" to my 5" bike because I wanted to go a little bigger, have more travel, and bomb the steep stuff. I didn't want the weight of a freeride or downhill setup, because a 40lb+ bike around here is just silly.

It sounds to me like you might be trying to achieve the same goals. I read OBSCENE AMOUNTS of comments, forums and articles about longer travel setups. I asked tons of questions and waffled back and forth about whether or not the climbing issues would ruin things for me.

On the climbs, the longer travel more slack HA set up was no where near as big a difference as I had imagined. On the descents, it was way more of a difference than I had imagined.

Even though I ride mostly XC, I love my AM setup. It's a good balance for me.

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Flex and lockout

Monday, November 17 2008, 10:57 PM

Having only heard tale of the twisty trees of the north east, it's tough to make a great comparison. In my experience, a longer travel fork (really taller axle to crown height) and a more slack HA does make your handling a little more sluggish. I noticed it going from my 4" to my 5" fork on my original XC bike. It is different, but it isn't huge. You'll get used to it.

Unless you're always doing huge step-ups or you are a super clyde, deflection and flex shouldn't be an issue. 32mm stanchions are plenty for my 200lb+ butt. I wouldn't describe the fork as "flexy" in the least.

The difference in climbing as I said before is noticeable, but you can totally deal with it. All it takes is leaning over your bars a bit. You can't sit/lean way back and expect to get over larger roots/rocks.

I had lockout on my 4" fork rarely used it. I don't have it on my XLT, and certainly don't miss it, especially when I am climbing through rock gardens and over roots. Lockout in those circumstances will definitely cause some serious deflection if the roots and rocks are larger.

I'm a total bike geek, and I love techy innovations such as adjustable travel. I read up on new products on a fairly regular basis and try to ride it whenever possible. All that being said, I just can't sing praises of the adjustable travel fork.

As far as wheels go, I think it is appropriate to let us know a little bit more about you and your riding style before committing to a TA setup. How much do you weigh? You said you don't huck, but how big of drops/jumps do you take?

If you are under 200lbs and don't ever do anything over 3' or so, I think you could easily get away with a standard quick release. If you are over 200lbs or close, and you frequently go bigger than 3' be it drops or air, you probably ought to go with a TA setup. As Mr. T said, you can probably find conversion kits from 20-15mm for most hubs on the market, especially higher end ones.

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Monday, November 17 2008, 06:51 PM

I totally second Mr. T's TA recommendation. What wheels are you looking at?

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Best bike upgrade I've made

Monday, November 17 2008, 06:44 PM

Honestly, the best money I spent on my bike has been my RP23. I've ridden coils and with the HV canister, the RP23 has a pretty linear compression curve out of the box. No sharp ramp ups or drop offs. I really love it, and the Propedal makes climbing nice.

I'm a pretty good size dude at 200lbs, and I don't blow throw the travel either. People have different opinions, but I love it.

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HT/ST angles

Monday, November 17 2008, 06:38 PM

I just checked my angles and my XLT has a 68.5 HA and 73 SA. I think that the SJ geo might have changed a little. The new SJ has a 68.5 on the "low setting" for the HA and a 74.5 for the SA.

I'm assuming that they mean 68.5 at the 100mm of travel. In any event, it feels weird to me. I picked my minute up for $250 and haven't looked back. I built my XLT from the frame up (J7s fr 203mm, r 185, Fox Rp23 w/high volume can, etc.) and still like my fork better than the talas.

For reference, I ride in UT, mostly XC with a little AM mixed in and can ride most of the technical stuff. I can't clean a 2 foot tall 90 degree step up, but I can get over most stuff. The best part about my current setup is that it climbs just about as well as my 4" XC bike did (like a monkey on crack), and descends like it's on rails.

Depending on what and where you ride, I think I'd still go with the float over the talas.

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Monday, November 17 2008, 06:04 PM

Who really wants a mtb specific non-disc wheelset these days, even if it is hand built?

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@ hijo

Monday, November 17 2008, 06:03 PM

I would have to say that in my humble opinion, the Talas is a bunch of hype. That of course depends on the type of riding you do.

My dad has a Stumpy expert with the Talas 32 and I've got a Manitou minute :03 on my Jamis XLT. My bike is more of an AM setup that his and has a MUCH more slack headtube angle. I've ridden both bikes extensively, and I have come to the conclusion that even though my bike has more of a tendency to wheelie up steep stuff, I like the non-adjustable fork better. At least on the SJ, the geometry changes pretty wildly when you change your axle to crown height by approximately an inch when you adjust the travel.

It feels unnatural. My opinion, go for the float, and put the extra couple hundred into something else.

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Sidi's are great...

Friday, October 10 2008, 08:36 AM

but when you are on a college student budget, they aren't exactly affordable, even on CL. I would really love to see some Northwave Vertigos w/SBS.

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Anyone know why gearattck isn't working?

Thursday, October 09 2008, 09:03 PM

CL on is not working. It hasn't updated for the last two days. SAC, WM and TD are all updating as they should, but CL isn't. It's stuck on the Castelli Tatoo jersey.

I'd love to see it fixed.

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Thursday, October 09 2008, 08:22 AM

I'd also really like some CL gear. Maybe some stickers, a shirt/hat.

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Thursday, October 09 2008, 08:22 AM

I'd still love to see the Northwave Vertigo's with the SBS buckle.

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How bout some more NW shoes?

Wednesday, September 24 2008, 03:01 PM

I need some new road and mtn shoes. I've been eyeing the Northwave Revenge in black, the Northwave Kameleon 3 in black, and the Northwave Vertigo SBS in black or white.

I'd love to find some on chainlove. Also, when are we going to see some chainlove gear (stickers, shirts, etc)? I've seen SAC, WM, and Tramdock gear, but no CL? Where's the love?

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Attn: CL and Backcountry employees

Tuesday, August 05 2008, 02:35 PM

I remember when I used to order from backcountry I could count on a good sticker or two in my package. How come that doesn't happen anymore? Also, are there any plans for Chainlove stickers? I'd throw on the car for sure. Just a thought.

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Description look familiar?

Monday, July 14 2008, 02:01 PM
Another guy/girl from Lehi selling stuff off of CL

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I'd love to see the following items :) - Pretty Please.

Monday, July 07 2008, 05:36 PM

On Mountain day:
Michelin Mountain AT MTB Tire - 26x2.35in
Continental Gravity Classic Tire

On Road day:
Michelin Pro 3 Race Road Bike Tires - 700x23mm (if the stars would only align)
Continental Grand Prix 4000 Clinchers (in red)
Continental Grand Prix 4000s Tire

It doesn't hurt to ask, right?

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ATTN: CL Beat down squad - Someone else is selling on KSL

Monday, July 07 2008, 05:17 PM

I am not sure why people think they can get away with this, but here is yet another fiend shamelessly selling what he/she bought on CL on KSL.

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Wednesday, June 25 2008, 08:52 AM

I have both long and short sleeve and I remember this being the price for the long sleeve.

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Wednesday, June 25 2008, 08:51 AM

Are these the short sleeve or long sleeve jerseys? I know it says short sleeve but it looks like a long sleeve to me.

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Some people just don't read the fine print.

Saturday, June 21 2008, 10:18 AM

Someone has posted an ad on ksl for the four cutter tubes and has lifted the description directly from CL. Here's the link

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