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by Tsan (17)

where are the squares who were complaining about the weed emblem on the socks yesterday?

by Cataboo (318)

AKC, yeah, but I'm used to here. And I just add 'em to my cart and check out when I wanna buy something else to share shipping, then they're not so bad. I hate finding things on pricepoint.

by Andrew Chang (100)

Price point has them for cheap. The deal they put on here for tubes isn't so screaming; it's merely okay.

Forkboy: Thanks for the info. I'd been wanting to go night adventuring on the road but I didn't have a light.

by Cataboo (318)

I still need innertubes.

by Forkboy (171)

Nice. I like the addition. Now I can tell if they are only selling gear for midgets, or I am just really slow on the draw.

by Forkboy (171)

Yes - these lights are worth it. I would bet you didn't put HID lights in your car for under $200. :)

I brought these out on a group night ride - everyone had old Niterider lights. 3 guys went out and bought the same setup after the ride.

$200 is a smoking deal. The best I've found was around $300 with some clever use of "sales" and coupons.

by MountainMedic (SDgearaddict) (92)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_discharge_lamp

www.halcyon.net/lights/hid-faq.shtml

www.sigmaautomotive.com/HID/hid.php

by MountainMedic (SDgearaddict) (92)

and it figures that as soon as I post, they remove the item

by MountainMedic (SDgearaddict) (92)

from what I understand (I don't know very much about lighting technology), HID = uber bright. I think you can get HID headlights for your car, pretty sure my buddy has them, and it's a huge difference. sure ~$200 is alot for a set of lights, but remember that they started out at much more than that. I would think that you'd definitely be getting what you pay for.

by Chained2Desk (11)

over $200? the headlights in my car were cheaper than this...just how much brighter are these compared to a 5 LED setup that I can get for $20?

It's obvious that I've never seen one working...can anyone explain it?

thanks

by mr. T (215)

Glad they are dumping more of these lights.
L&M is a good company, stands by their products. This is very decent HID, one that will be more than adequate to rail at night, participate in that 24 hour gig without breaking the bank. Nice that it comes with a helmet and bar mount.

by itown (48)

If they have gatorskins up here, i will buy 3, i promise... They are the only tire i use...

by Cataboo (318)

Well, I knew thread per inch, I just didn't have a basis.

And they're blue. so of course I love 'em

by Andrew Chang (100)

Use them, see if you like em, if you do I guess that's all that matters. As for me, I'm holding out for some GP4000s or Gatorskins.

by Forkboy (171)

http://www.hutchinson-pneus.com/us/catalogue.php?cat=route&sub=cyclotourisme

66 TPI

If you had never found out what TPI meant, you could have ridden these worry free for many, many miles.

by Cataboo (318)

I may just use 'em on my trainer.

by Cataboo (318)

You guys sure these are 33 total TPI?

Everything that I find says that they :The perfect training tire, now honoring the Tour de France. Optimized durability and grip using a droplet profile tread for increased grip in all conditions and a 33 tpi puncture resistant casing.


When I look up the continental tires that I bought, they say:
* Constructed from 3 plies, totalling 84 tpi


So.... Are these actually 33 tpi or is it just the outer casing that is 33 tpi?



And ... Do I want the total TPI or do I just care what the TPI is on the outer layer?

by Cataboo (318)

From the michelin website:

Tire Casings and Reinforcements

Two Types: Oblique Thread
and Woven Material

Oblique Thread: made with straight thread in different densities.

WHAT IS DENSITY? This is the total number of threads per decimeter or tpi (thread per inch)

Three Examples:

* 33 tpi (110 treads per dm) for entry level tires or for abusive
situations like downhill racing or freeriding (big threads).
* 60 tpi (240 threads per dm) for the intermediate range (medium size threads).
* 127 tpi (420 threads per dm) for the top range (fine threads) .


The finer the thread, the higher the density. It is an important characteristic of a light, supple and fast tire. Higher density is not always better; it must consider strength, durability and real world situations to provide optimized performance.

Michelin Examples:
Road:
Pro2 Light, Pro2 Race, Pro2 Grip with 127 tpi (190 to 220 grams in 23-622 size)
Lithion with 60 tpi (230 grams in 23-622 size)
Speedium2, Erilium2, Orium and Dynamic in 33 tpi ( 265 to 380 grams)
MTB:
XCR DRY2, XCR MUD, XCR A/T., XCR Xtrem in 127 tpi
XC A/T, XC DRY2, XC Hard Terrain, Mountain Dry2 in 60 tpi
Country AT, Country Rock, Country Trail, Diabolo Cool, 2.20 Mountain Xtrem, DH15, DH16, DH24, DH32 & DH Mud3 in 33 tpi.

by Cataboo (318)

Maybe they assume women are narrower in the back, so they don't have room for 3 pockets?

by MountainMedic (SDgearaddict) (92)

agreed. definitely golf.

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